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HCL Notes/Domino 8.5 Forum (includes Notes Traveler)

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Hello together, a agree that not all what IBM has done was best or even good. As you mentioned, advertising for Notes was boring or inexistent. That's also the reason why people discuss of replacing Notes with Exchange, Quir with Sharepoint, Sametime with Office Communicator.... but as usual if you know both worlds in realtime not on paper or from the vendors one is clear: Take a Notes 4.5 Database, connect it under an 8.0 client and it works.... Take Exchange 5.5 go to 2007 you can't!!! Someone told that the Hardware he uses could be not best but it works still... try it once with Exchange 2007 --> no chance. We have a new Infrastructure for 2500 clients sized by Microsoft (you heard right) and when you click on a user you wait 2-5 seconds to see the mailbox infos on the Exchange server (load today 150 clients... that's boring)... Unified Messaging from R1 --> upcoming R2 no Upgrade path (sounds cool, not) you saw that once by IBM? Or you have an idea for the Sharpoint Indexing Server how much memory you need to start (designed by Microsoft themselves)? 64 GB of memory.. ha ha i never saw a notes server having that for email & Databases... That's ugly... or a last example.. you like the Cluster Servers in Domino... Then take a deep breath before you go to Exchange 2007.... no more active/active Cluster (written in their technotes... we abandoned active active because we had problems with earlier versions)... that's really weird.... now let's reflect the problems you found and compare to that i explained here in a few seconds and you see there are 2 big differences within this 2 companies: IBM is used to deal with longterm strategie (not always obvious, you're right)... or end user strategy --> install from scratch... I do not defend IBM's weak marketing or since the change from Iris to IBM, answers in the forum have lost quality, but it's still a good and robust product (if you give him the right Hardware to run on it... for a last example i'm still running Lotus Domino 8.0.2 on a old IBM Server x232 with 1 GB of RAM and it works (with hosted Homepages).. means for mail/databases/Webservices... try that once with Exchange 2007 and tell me your feedback (if you will finish the installation successfully)!!!


Feedback response number WEBB7MTDYP created by ~James Kinumar on 12/30/2008

Venting (~Manny Chufreep... 26.Dec.08)
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. . . . You've got that right (~Helga Desjumik... 27.Dec.08)
. . . . . . Thank you... (~Manny Chufreep... 28.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . Yep, sad but true (~Helga Desjumik... 28.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . Not sure whether my response will b... (~Mario Cislugon... 28.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Thanks, but... (~Manny Chufreep... 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Is that 8.0.2? (~Mario Cislugon... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes... (~Manny Chufreep... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Why Notes market share is slipping (~Helga Froluche... 2.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . I would strongly disagree with the ... (~Mario Cislugon... 3.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . But... (~Manny Chufreep... 6.Jan.09)
. . . . Registration issues (~Tony Frokizenf... 2.Jan.09)
. . . . . . There isn't anything that gets logg... (~Manny Chufreep... 6.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . Client local log.nsf? (~Tony Frokizenf... 8.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . You're correct.... (~Manny Chufreep... 10.Jan.09)
. . complains (~James Kinumar 30.Dec.08)
. . . . Trust Me... (~Manny Chufreep... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . The times you are reporting are muc... (~Naomi Dwoachek... 30.Dec.08)
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. . . . . . . . Preview Pane (~Manny Chufreep... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . On a preview where the design eleme... (~Naomi Dwoachek... 1.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . This is a simple opening of the mai... (~Manny Chufreep... 6.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . I'm more than willing to work with ... (~Naomi Dwoachek... 6.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Thank you, Doug... (~Manny Chufreep... 8.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . Timing on a Mac OS X system (~Mark Asaweplop... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . Add CONSOLE_LOG_ENABLED=1 to the pr... (~Naomi Dwoachek... 2.Jan.09)
. . . . . . Your numbers are higher than what I... (~Dana Minhipiso... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . Ok, but what? (~Manny Chufreep... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . Re: Trust Me (~Mark Asaweplop... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . We use DNS entries... (~Manny Chufreep... 31.Dec.08)
. . Designer (~Frank Kitoogen... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . re: Designer (~Manny Chufreep... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . there have been many improvements s... (~Elizabeth Xanl... 1.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . Maybe I should clarify... (~Manny Chufreep... 6.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . And when is the post beta2 release ... (~Manny Chufreep... 6.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . 8.5 (no beta) will be available bef... (~Nita Nimfreeso... 6.Jan.09)
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. . . . . . . . So Can You Expand On That Then? (~Manny Chufreep... 29.Dec.08)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . Requirement for template? (~Mark Asaweplop... 31.Dec.08)
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. . . . One other thing... (~Manny Chufreep... 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . Well, Well (~Paul Opnuvitch... 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . Unfortunately... (~Manny Chufreep... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . There's a new OOO functionality in ... (~Rebecca Quettu... 31.Dec.08)
. . Eclipse client slowness, and Sameti... (~John Zenjipyge... 6.Jan.09)
. . . . Sametime Issue Resolved.... (~Manny Chufreep... 8.Jan.09)




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